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	<title>Comments on: The Great Vuvuzela Debate</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://www.laurencecaromba.com/2009/06/19/the-great-vuvuzela-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 00:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hooliganism is not the issue at all, nor is race. What is the issue is viewership. If this tournament wants to maintain its viewer supremacy (715 million worldwide last time around) it's going to have to cater (at least a bit) to the home viewer, who is buying the sponsors' products, getting the ratings on the networks for the TV sponsors, and making it as popular as it is in bars, restaurants and public venues where big screens proliferate.  Think about it folks, in the end, the viewers in the stands are a drop in the bucket when it comes to where the real money is made, and where the players are paid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hooliganism is not the issue at all, nor is race. What is the issue is viewership. If this tournament wants to maintain its viewer supremacy (715 million worldwide last time around) it&#8217;s going to have to cater (at least a bit) to the home viewer, who is buying the sponsors&#8217; products, getting the ratings on the networks for the TV sponsors, and making it as popular as it is in bars, restaurants and public venues where big screens proliferate.  Think about it folks, in the end, the viewers in the stands are a drop in the bucket when it comes to where the real money is made, and where the players are paid.</p>
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		<title>By: Sipho Nyambose</title>
		<link>http://www.laurencecaromba.com/2009/06/19/the-great-vuvuzela-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>Sipho Nyambose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 05:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Culture is static and dynamic. The vuvuzela is a new dynamism in our culture. Like it or hate it, it will blow you mind! If you've always regarded our culture as being barbaric ( call it soccer hooliganism, Lemang), so be it! The non-hooligans blew it at the Bulls matches in Soweto ~ fast learners. How nice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Culture is static and dynamic. The vuvuzela is a new dynamism in our culture. Like it or hate it, it will blow you mind! If you&#8217;ve always regarded our culture as being barbaric ( call it soccer hooliganism, Lemang), so be it! The non-hooligans blew it at the Bulls matches in Soweto ~ fast learners. How nice!</p>
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		<title>By: Lemang</title>
		<link>http://www.laurencecaromba.com/2009/06/19/the-great-vuvuzela-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>Lemang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the vuvuzela is a signifier of south african soccer hooliganism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the vuvuzela is a signifier of south african soccer hooliganism.</p>
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		<title>By: Emil</title>
		<link>http://www.laurencecaromba.com/2009/06/19/the-great-vuvuzela-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Emil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the confed cup showed the world, is that the vuvuzela is now part of the &lt;strong&gt;South African&lt;/strong&gt; culture. I blow on mine with pride!

Culture is an interesting phenomena.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the confed cup showed the world, is that the vuvuzela is now part of the <strong>South African</strong> culture. I blow on mine with pride!</p>
<p>Culture is an interesting phenomena.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayibuye Magwaza</title>
		<link>http://www.laurencecaromba.com/2009/06/19/the-great-vuvuzela-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayibuye Magwaza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've always thought that it's interesting how 'culture' is created in South Africa. Something becomes controversial - the vuvuzela, say - and its supporters pop up and claim it as part of their 'culture', as if that is the ultimate trump card.

Andrew correctly points out that the vuvuzela is a recent innovation. That naturally gives rise to the question: how old does something have to be to become part of our culture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always thought that it&#8217;s interesting how &#8216;culture&#8217; is created in South Africa. Something becomes controversial - the vuvuzela, say - and its supporters pop up and claim it as part of their &#8216;culture&#8217;, as if that is the ultimate trump card.</p>
<p>Andrew correctly points out that the vuvuzela is a recent innovation. That naturally gives rise to the question: how old does something have to be to become part of our culture?</p>
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		<title>By: Son of Apes and Pigs</title>
		<link>http://www.laurencecaromba.com/2009/06/19/the-great-vuvuzela-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Son of Apes and Pigs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I scarcely say not bringing loud musical instruments into sports arenas is "bending over backwards"...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I scarcely say not bringing loud musical instruments into sports arenas is &#8220;bending over backwards&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AQUILOGY</title>
		<link>http://www.laurencecaromba.com/2009/06/19/the-great-vuvuzela-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>AQUILOGY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^decency is relative, just because you close mind finds vuvuselas not decent doesn't mean we have to bend over backwards to accomodate you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^decency is relative, just because you close mind finds vuvuselas not decent doesn&#8217;t mean we have to bend over backwards to accomodate you.</p>
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		<title>By: Son of Apes and Pigs</title>
		<link>http://www.laurencecaromba.com/2009/06/19/the-great-vuvuzela-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Son of Apes and Pigs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now now, we wouldn't want to sacrfice "African culture" for some basic decency at a sporting event. I wonder what FIFA and the 2010 organizers would think of letting assagais and knobkerries into the stadium? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now now, we wouldn&#8217;t want to sacrfice &#8220;African culture&#8221; for some basic decency at a sporting event. I wonder what FIFA and the 2010 organizers would think of letting assagais and knobkerries into the stadium? :)</p>
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		<title>By: AQUILOGY</title>
		<link>http://www.laurencecaromba.com/2009/06/19/the-great-vuvuzela-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>AQUILOGY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^I assume you haven't been to a local soccer match before the confedcup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^I assume you haven&#8217;t been to a local soccer match before the confedcup.</p>
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		<title>By: hilton smith</title>
		<link>http://www.laurencecaromba.com/2009/06/19/the-great-vuvuzela-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>hilton smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is making annoying noise for an extended amount of time part of what makes us unique?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is making annoying noise for an extended amount of time part of what makes us unique?</p>
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		<title>By: AQUILOGY</title>
		<link>http://www.laurencecaromba.com/2009/06/19/the-great-vuvuzela-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>AQUILOGY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, african have to do away with part of what makes them unique in order to please european visitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, african have to do away with part of what makes them unique in order to please european visitors.</p>
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